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Atheism and the problem of time.
One of several ways atheists attempt to get round the Law of Cause and Effect (which they know is fatal to their natural, origins ideology) is to assert that, as time began with the alleged Big Bang (the natural origin of the universe scenario) there might not have been any ’cause’ for the Universe to be an ‘effect’ of, since there was probably no ‘time’ for a ’cause’ to exist in.

What are we to make of that argument?
Is it possible that a big bang or any natural, creation event could happen without a cause?

The atheist belief that something physical can come from nothing, of its own volition, without any preceding cause, is logically bizarre, it violates the law of cause and effect, and several other natural laws.
Obviously, such a belief is not scientifically or logically credible.
Nevertheless, atheists are adamant that such a natural, origins scenario is a fact. So, is lack of time before an alleged, big bang scenario the answer to their dilemma?

It is pretty clear that this idea hasn’t been thought through properly.
First we need to ask what is time, exactly?
Time is essentially a chronology of natural (physical) events.
So, time, as we know it, had to begin with the creation of the material (physical) realm.
Theists realised that time is a physical thing, long before Einstein confirmed it in the 20th century.
And time, being physical, only applies to physical things. It doesn't apply to non-physical, non-tangible or abstract things. For example, time doesn't affect or diminish information or truth ...

2 + 2 = 4 is statistical information and is eternally true. It is not reliant on, or affected by, time. Information may require physical media to make it tangible to humans, but failure to store or record it in tangible form, doesn’t affect its enduring truth.
King Henry VIII had six wives - is a piece of historical information, it can be written down and stored on paper, or stored in other media such as a computer disc, microchip, or human memory.
However, if it is not stored in a tangible media, it doesn’t cease to be an historical fact. It will be true forever - for all eternity.
Time just doesn’t affect it. Because it is not a physical thing - it is outside the dominion of time. It cannot be changed by passage of time, or even diminished by whether we are aware of it, or not. Therefore, the atheist idea that - "there might not have been any ’cause’ for the Universe to be an ‘effect’ of, since there was probably no time for a ’cause’ to exist in, prior to the effect”, is obvious nonsense.
Information and truth are both non-physical entities which (unlike physical entities) can exist independently of time. They are, in effect, eternal. Time does not affect them, in any way.
Unlike all physical things, they are not subject to the law of entropy. Only the tangible expression of information and truth in physical media can be eroded by time, but not the essence of their existence.
Truth and information continue to exist, whether or not they are made tangible in physical form.
If any physical thing or cause existed before the alleged Big Bang, it had to be subject to time.
Which, means - that which existed in a timeless state before the creation event of a physical universe (the first cause) had to be a non-physical (supernatural) entity. There is no other option.

Information is a non-physical entity that exists outside of time, truth also exists outside of time - and thus the original source of information, the non-physical, eternally-existent, first cause (or the Word - ‘Logos’ as the Bible describes it) MUST exist outside of time.

Atheists, who are bound by their belief in materialism, cannot contemplate a cause that is not physical. They assume that all causes are physical, and so, if there was no time before the big bang event for anything physical to exist as a cause, the big bang would have to be causeless.
However, this argument is confused, because they also believe that there was the existence of extremely dense matter before the big bang. Their own argument is that there WAS something physical before the big bang, i.e. dense matter.
So, we have to go back further and ask what caused the dense matter to exist?
Did it exist in a timeless environment?
Not possible! If time is a physical thing (which we know it is), time must exist wherever physical things exist, because it is a chronology of physical things.
A big bang allegedly followed the existence of dense matter, that is a chronological event, within a physical time frame. Thus, even according to the beliefs of atheism, time could not have begun with the big bang explosion. Time would have needed to exist during the period that dense matter existed, prior to the big bang.

Can matter have always existed?
The simple answer is no.
Matter/energy and all natural entities and events are contingent, they rely on causes for everything. Because they are contingent they cannot be eternally self-existent or necessary entities. They do not contain within themselves the reason or cause of their own existence. As contingent entities, they are entirely reliant on that which causes and maintains them. They cannot exist or operate in any way without causes, Thus they must have had an original cause at some stage, even if the chain of causes and effects is very long, it had to have a beginning at some point.
A basic principle of the scientific method is that we can expect to find an adequate cause for every natural occurrence (The Law of Cause and Effect). All scientific research is based on that premise. The Law of Cause and Effect tells us that every natural effect/event/entity has an adequate cause. The natural effect/event/entity cannot be greater than its cause/causes.
To propose a non-contingent, natural occurrence or entity as the originator of the universe (as atheists are forced to do), is unscientific fantasy.
Atheists can’t refute the Law of Cause and Effect which is so devastating to their naturalist agenda, so they regularly invent bizarre scenarios which ignore natural laws, and hope people won’t notice. If anyone does, they just brush it off with remarks like “we just don’t know” what laws existed prior to the beginning of the universe.
Sorry, the atheist apologists may not know …. but all sensible people do know, we certainly know what is impossible ….
And we certainly know that you cannot blithely step outside the constraints of natural laws and scientific principles, as atheists do, and remain credible.
We know that natural laws describe the inherent properties of matter/energy. Which means wherever matter/energy exist, the inherent properties of matter/energy also exist - and so do the natural laws that describe those properties. If the universe began, as some propose, with a cosmic egg, or a previous universe, those things are still natural entities with natural properties and as such would be subject to natural laws. So the idea that there were natural events leading up to the origin of the universe that were not subject to natural laws is ridiculous.
The atheist claim; that we just don't know, is not valid, and should be treated as the silliness it really is.
The existence of the law of cause and effect is essential to the scientific method, but fatal to the atheist ideology.
SO....
Is the law of cause and effect really universal?
Causation is necessary for the existence of the universe, but ALSO for the existence of any natural entities or events that may have preceded the creation of the universe.
In other words, causation is necessary for all matter/energy and all natural entities and occurrences, whether within the universe or elsewhere.
ALL natural entities are contingent wherever they may be, whether in some sort of cosmic egg, a big bang, a previous universe or whatever.
Contingency is an inherent character of all natural entities, so it is impossible for any natural entity to be non-contingent.
Which means you simply CANNOT have a natural entity which is UNCAUSED, anywhere at any time.
If, for example, matter/energy was not contingent at the very start of the universe, or before the universe began, how and why would it be contingent now?
Why would nature have changed its basic character to an inferior one?
If matter/energy once had such awesome, autonomous power - if it was, at some time, self-sufficient, not reliant on causes for its operation and existence, and not restricted by the limitations causes impose, it would effectively mean it was once an infinite, necessary, self-existent entity, similar to God.
Now if matter once had the autonomous, non-contingent powers of a god, why would it change itself to a subordinate character and role, when it became part of the universe?
Why would it change to a role where it is limited by the strictures of natural laws. And where it cannot operate without a preceding, adequate cause?
To claim matter/energy was, at one time, not contingent, not subject to causes (which is what atheists have to claim) – is to actually imbue it with the autonomous power of a god.
That is why atheism is really just a re-invented version of pagan naturalism.
By denying the basic, contingent character of matter/nature, atheism effectively deifies nature, and credits it with godlike powers, which science clearly tells us it doesn’t possess.

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"I believe that the more thoroughly science is studied, the further does it take us from anything comparable to atheism"
"If you study science deep enough and long enough, it will force you to believe in God"
Lord William Kelvin.
Noted for his theoretical work on thermodynamics, the concept of absolute zero and the Kelvin temperature scale.

The Law of Cause and Effect is a fundamental principle of the scientific method. Science literally means 'knowledge'. Knowledge about the natural world is gained through seeking adequate causes for every natural occurrence. An uncaused, natural ocurrence, is a completely, unscientific notion.
Concerning the Law of Cause and Effect, one of the world's greatest scientists, Dr. Albert Einstein wrote: “All natural science is based on the hypothesis of the complete causal connection of all events”
Albert Einstein. The Collected Papers of Albert Einstein, Hebrew University and Princeton University Press p.183

FOUNDATIONS OF SCIENCE
The Law of Cause and Effect. Dominant Principle of Classical Physics. David L. Bergman and Glen C. Collins
www.thewarfareismental.net/b/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/b...

"The Big Bang's Failed Predictions and Failures to Predict: (Updated Aug 3, 2017.) As documented below, trust in the big bang's predictive ability has been misplaced when compared to the actual astronomical observations that were made, in large part, in hopes of affirming the theory."
kgov.com/big-bang-predictions

Evolution multi-million year timescale refuted by field and experimental evidence, i.e. real scientific evidence.
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